[Buildroot] [PATCH v2] Disable o32 ABI for MIPS64 architectures
Markos Chandras
Markos.Chandras at imgtec.com
Thu Mar 27 09:27:50 UTC 2014
On 03/26/2014 11:45 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
> On 03/26/2014 13:17, Arnout Vandecappelle wrote:
>>
>> Hi Joshua,
>>
>> On 26/03/14 15:19, Markos Chandras wrote:
>>> On 03/26/2014 12:14 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>>>> On 03/25/2014 16:02, Arnout Vandecappelle wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>>> Support for MIPS o32 ABI on MIPS-64 targets has been removed. Building
>>>>> o32 ELF files for MIPS64 is an exotic configuration that nobody should be
>>>>> using. If o32 is required, then is better if it's built for MIPS 32-bit
>>>>> cores so only 32-bit instructions will be used leading to a more
>>>>> efficient o32 usage.
>>>>
>>>> Just to point out, I wouldn't call this "exotic" -- o32 on mips64 kernels
>>>> (MIPS-IV ISA) is what I run on my SGI O2 under Gentoo. That said, I do
>>>> have
>>>> a somewhat-working n32 chroot on the same box. Additionally, isn't o32
>>
>> So the mips64 n32 userspace created by buildroot doesn't work
>> completely, just somewhat?
>
> No, "somewhat" means I haven't powered that machine up in a while and
> updated it. It boots into an o32 install I've had since 2005 (and am loathe
> to replace just yet, at least as long as the disks stay alive), and I chroot
> into a separate n32 root. It's got an old 350MHz RM7000 CPU (PMC-Sierra),
> so updating can take a long time for just the o32 root (gcc is ~17hrs these
> days. Used to be ~2.5hrs in the gcc-3.4.x days). Once that's updated, I
> then update the n32 root. Almost had that done until a recent snow storm
> knocked my power out, and I never resumed the update.
>
>
>>> We are talking about using 64-bit instructions in *userland* while
>>> maintaining the o32 ABI semantics. Well, this is definitely an exotic
>>> configuration. We are not talking about 64-bit kernels + o32 userland.
>>> An o32 userland usually comes from mips32 and you usually have only
>>> 32-bit instructions there.
>>
>> Joshua, if you agree with this reasoning, could you ack Vicente's patch?
>
> Let me get clarification on what "MIPS64" Vincent was referring to first.
> It's easy to mix that up. I was assuming he meant o32 userland + mips64
> kernel, which I know still works, even though it is very inefficient (using
> just half of your available CPU registers). If he's referring to the ISA of
> MIPS64 (or as I read it, mips64r1/mips64r2), then yeah, it's not a problem
> at all. Though I am not an authority on MIPS' capabilities outside of the
> SGI hardware lineup, as that's all that I have available to play with.
>
>
Yes, maybe the commit message was confusing. We definitely did not mean
mips64 kernel + o32 userland. We meant 64-bit userland + o32 ABI.
So I guess we are all good here :)
--
markos
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